HSBC Outdoorsmen News - 2/26/2009

Sorry I'm late getting this weeks message out.

Sunday's meeting was excellent. We had nine guys make and really stayed on schedule by getting right into the Bible study and finishing our prayer requests and prayer at 7:00 PM sharp.

Perhaps it's just me but it sure seems that the more guys that attend the better the Bible study is. There's more versions of the Bible to read from and different commentary in each. More input and more ideas from more people. I've heard more than a few of you make the comment that you get way more out of our Bible studies than you do on your own. I totally agree, and in case you haven't noticed, I'm prone to steering us off topic by bringing up questions about something I read earlier in the week. Having others to discuss it with and hearing what they have to say is really what it's all about. For those of you who haven't been able to make it in a while I encourage you to get back into it. This is good stuff. It's an opportunity to learn about the Bible and gain a better understanding of what God is telling us. It's an opportunity to ask man questions to other men about what it all means and how it applies to us. So come on down, throw in a dip or a chew (and let me bum one off of you), pull up to the table and get into it.
Disclaimer: dipping snuff (spit tobacco) or chewing tobacco is not required to attend the Outdoorsmen meetings and isn't actually endorsed by the Outdoorsmen and most Outdoorsmen don't touch the stuff - except the big guy with the computer who says he quit but is in denial. Tobacco use can be hazardous to your health. Snuff and Chew are not safe alternatives to smoking.





So a few times now I've sent out requests for feedback from you all (hint: look at the two items following this one). So far the response has been less than stellar. I asked about interest in organizing a periodic fly-tying meeting; I received three responses. On the two requests below, including the response I got from Glenn, that doesn't actually indicate a preference on either, I've received exactly.......(carry the one.....) one response. I'm not asking you to volunteer to rake leaves at the battered husbands shelter or snuggle with sickly cats to nurture them. Just a simple response is all I ask. 'Hey John, that sounds like a good idea to me' or 'I don't think I'd be interested because I'm already too busy' or 'you're short and your mother dresses you funny!'. Anything is better than nothing. OK, I'll just step down now.........




Glenn introduced a couple of new opportunities the Outdoorsmen may be interested in:
Ignite -- National Simulcast - August 8, 2009
Find out more about it here http://www.ignitemen.org/
This is a pay-to-play event that will cost $400 for HSBC to host. Glenn is suggesting charging $15.00/person and providing a finger-lickin' good BBQ chicken lunch to all attendees. Attendance would not be limited to HSBC members only. Any proceeds above and beyond the total cost of the event will be donated to the Mizpah Christian Retreat fund.
We need to see by a show of hands how many think this is a good idea and would like the Outdoorsmen to move forward with it. OK, so if you raised your hand, please reply to this message and tell me or contact Glenn to let him know (better tell him why you were raising your hand as he typically doesn't read these messages until six or eight weeks after they arrive).


Kings Hill 3-D Archery Tournament - July 18th & 19th (pending)
Hosted by Great Falls Archery Club. Camping available and it's a family-friendly event. http://www.greatfallsarchery.com/ - there's not much about the tournament up yet so contact Glenn for more details.
The Outdoorsmen currently have the Family Day at the Lake scheduled for July 18th. If we decide to add this archery tournament/campout to our calendar we will need to reschedule the Family Day at the Lake.
Once again, we need to hear from you if you think the Outdoorsmen should add this event to our schedule. Please reply to this message or contact Glenn directly.



Upcoming Outdoorsmen Events

Outdoorsmen Motorcycle Movie Night - Friday March 6 at Jerry's house
We'll be watching The World's Fastest Indian with Anthony Hopkins. Please plan on bringing drinks, snacks, or ???? Address and more info. to follow.
I'll send out an update as soon as I hear from Jerry.

Saturday March 14 - Ice fishing -- Canyon Ferry
Official meeting time and place not yet set but most likely early in East Helena. Stay tuned for more details.

Saturday March 28 - Fly Fishing -- Meet at HSBC
This is a learn-to-fly fish outing done in conjunction with CrossCurrents of Helena. Some gear will be available for those who don't have any. More details to follow but this is a great opportunity to find out what fly fishing is all about.

Saturday April 11 - Outdoorsmen Trap Shoot -- Helena Trap Club
This is another community event put on by the Outdoorsmen. It's a lot of fun for everyone.

Friday - Sunday April 24 - 26 - Outdoorsmen men's backpacking trip -- Meet at HSBC
I believe the location is going to be the same as last year which is along the MO between Hauser and Holter. If you plan on going on this trip (and you should) you need to be sure to attend some Tuesday meetings to learn all the details.

Friday - Sunday May 29 - 31 - Outdoorsmen Father/Son Campout
Location TBA




Next Outdoorsmen meeting and Bible study

Tuesday March 3, Smith's Place in East Helena, 7:00 PM
We covered most of Luke 18:18-30 (The rich ruler) at the last meeting. We'll finish up where we left off and then move on to Luke 18:31-34 (Jesus foretells His death a third time), Luke 18:35-43 (Jesus heals a blind beggar) and possibly get into chapter 19. Hope to see you there.

Sunday March 8, Starbuck's on Prospect, 5:30 - 7:00 PM
We'll be studying Luke chapter 19



Note: For those who don't know, HSBC is Hannaford Street Bible Church and it is located at
830 N Hannaford St.
Helena, MT



John Noble outdoorsmen@hannaford.org
HSBC Outdoorsmen

Tuesday's Outdoorsmen meeting and Bible study was once again sparsely attended but we had some very good discussion on the Bible passages of Luke 18:1-8 (The persistent widow) and Luke 18:9-14 (The Pharisee and the tax collector).

Glenn Morrison introduced a couple of new opportunities the Outdoorsmen may be interested in:
Ignite -- National Simulcast - August 8, 2009
Find out more about it here http://www.ignitemen.org/
This is a pay-to-play event that will cost $400 for HSBC to host. Glenn is suggesting charging $15.00/person and providing a finger-lickin' good BBQ chicken lunch to all attendees. Attendance would not be limited to HSBC members only. Any proceeds above and beyond the total cost of the event will be donated to the Mizpah Christian Retreat fund.
We need to see by a show of hands how many think this is a good idea and would like the Outdoorsmen to move forward with it. OK, so if you raised your hand, please reply to this message and tell me or contact Glenn Morrison to let him know (better tell him why you were raising your hand as he typically doesn't read these messages until six or eight weeks after they arrive).


Kings Hill 3-D Archery Tournament - July 18th & 19th (pending)
Hosted by Great Falls Archery Club. Camping available and it's a family-friendly event. http://www.greatfallsarchery.com/ - there's not much about the tournament up yet so contact Glenn Morrison for more details.
The Outdoorsmen currently have the Family Day at the Lake scheduled for July 18th. If we decide to add this archery tournament/campout to our calendar we will need to reschedule the Family Day at the Lake.
Once again, we need to hear from you if you think the Outdoorsmen should add this event to our schedule. Please reply to this message or contact Glenn Morrison directly.



Upcoming Outdoorsmen Events

Outdoorsmen Motorcycle Movie Night - TBA
Most likely in early March. No date/time/location has been set but I believe we'll be watching The World's Fastest Indian with Anthony Hopkins

Saturday March 14 - Ice fishing -- Canyon Ferry
Official meeting time and place not yet set but most likely early in East Helena. Stay tuned for more details.

Saturday March 28 - Fly Fishing -- Meet at HSBC
This is a learn-to-fly fish outing done in conjunction with CrossCurrents of Helena. Some gear will be available for those who don't have any. More details to follow but this is a great opportunity to find out what fly fishing is all about.

Saturday April 11 - Outdoorsmen Trap Shoot -- Helena Trap Club
This is another community event put on by the Outdoorsmen. It's a lot of fun for everyone.

Friday - Sunday April 24 - 26 - Outdoorsmen men's backpacking trip -- Meet at HSBC
I believe the location is going to be the same as last year which is along the MO between Hauser and Holter. If you plan on going on this trip (and you should) you need to be sure to attend some Tuesday meetings to learn all the details.

Friday - Sunday May 29 - 31 - Outdoorsmen Father/Son Campout
Location TBA




Next Outdoorsmen meeting and Bible study

Sunday February 22, Starbuck's on Prospect, 5:30 - 7:00 PM
We'll still be in Luke chapter 18. Remember that the meeting is only one and a half hours and Starbuck's closes promptly at 7:00 PM. Please arrive on time so we can get to it.

Tuesday March 3, Smith's Place in East Helena, 7:00 PM
We'll most likely be starting Luke chapter 19. Once again we'll try to get Outdoorsmen business finished up and get into Bible study by 8:00 PM.


Note: For those who don't know, HSBC is Hannaford Street Bible Church and it is located at
830 N Hannaford St.
Helena, MT



John Noble outdoorsmen@hannaford.org
HSBC Outdoorsmen

Oudoorsmen News

Happy 30th day of Legislature......only 60 more days to go (please pray for me.......).


The Outdoorsmen Family Ski day at Great Divide was a great success. Please take a moment to give Keith Newmeyer a pat on the back for doing the lion's share on this one. I know there were many others involved that also need thanks but the one that comes to mind right now is Tom Stockton; thanks for hauling up the fire pit and keeping the water hot for everyone. Perhaps next year we can do two of these. If we get a few more guys involved to help out and if Keith can workout the details with Great Divide I think it'd be a good idea.


Sunday's meeting was a little sparse compared to the Tuesday turn-outs we've been getting but the Bible study was good. We got down to business by about 5:45 and walked out promptly at 7:00 PM. We finished up Luke 17:20-37 and moved on to 18:1-8 (The Unjust Judge). We'll be finishing up Luke 18:1-8 and get into Luke 18:9-14 (Two Prayers) at the next meeting on Tuesday, February 17.



Upcoming Outdoorsmen Events

Sunday February 15 - Ice fishing after church -- Canyon Ferry
Meet after second service in the foyer. Be sure to bring your gear and be ready to fish.

Saturday March 14 - Ice fishing -- Canyon Ferry
Official meeting time and place not yet set but most likely early in East Helena. Stay tuned for more details.

Saturday March 28 - Fly Fishing -- Meet at HSBC
This is a learn-to-fly fish outing done in conjunction with CrossCurrents of Helena. Some gear will be available for those who don't have any. More details to follow but this is a great opportunity to find out what fly fishing is all about.

Saturday April 11 - Outdoorsmen Trap Shoot -- Helena Trap Club
This is another community event put on by the Outdoorsmen. It's a lot of fun for everyone.

Friday - Sunday April 24 - 26 - Outdoorsmen men's backpacking trip -- Meet at HSBC
I believe the location is going to be the same as last year which is along the MO between Hauser and Holter. If you plan on going on this trip (and you should) you need to be sure to attend some Tuesday meetings to learn all the details.



Next Outdoorsmen meeting and Bible study

Tuesday February 17, Smith's Place in East Helena, 7:00 PM
Please read Luke chapter 18. I'm going to suggest we get into Bible study no later than 8:15 PM for the benefit of those (me) that can't stay past 11:00 PM. One hour and fifteen minutes should be adequate for Outdoorsmen business in my opinion but please feel free to chime in on this. We're all a part of this group and the meetings are for all our benefit so please let me know if you do or don't agree.

Sunday February 22, Starbuck's on Prospect, 5:30 - 7:00 PM
We'll still be in Luke chapter 18. Remember that the meeting is only one and a half hours and Starbuck's closes promptly at 7:00 PM. Please arrive on time so we can get to it.



Note: For those who don't know, HSBC is Hannaford Street Bible Church and it is located at
830 N Hannaford St.
Helena, MT



John Noble outdoorsmen@hannaford.org
HSBC Outdoorsmen

Outdoorsmen New 2/4/2009

Friday's motorcycle movie night was pretty fun. We started off by watching some of On Any Sunday II while waiting for everyone to show up. We watched Faster and then Faster '03-'04 and also a bit of a movie made by a friend of mine of a group of us riding in the Klickitat River area of Washington back in 2002. Pizza, pop and motorcycle movies; what more could you want? We are planning on another motorcycle movie night for early March and plans are to watch The Worlds Fastest Indian (a very good film starring Anthony Hopkins).



Saturday's ice-fishing adventure had a few hardy souls attend. I understand two different groups went out: one early group (for the men; right Jason?) and a group that met at the designated time and went to Canyon Ferry. I've heard the Canyon Ferry group caught......a cold and not much else. Not sure how the early group faired but I understand they went to the causeway. Probably caught 75 lunker trout and a paddle fish......but they let them all go; you know, catch and release and all.....



Tuesday's meeting and Bible study had a good turn out again (we had 10 show up). We spent quite a bit of time going over Outdoorsmen business. I feel we need to get Outdoorsmen business taken care of sooner so we can get into Bible study earlier and go longer. I'd very much like to get feedback from all of you though. The meetings are for all of us so please respond with your thoughts and opinions.

We studied Luke 17:20-37 but didn't get all the way through (the discussion was excellent though and we ended up doing as much, if not more, study in Exodus thanks to me getting us off topic....a bit....).

Glenn introduced an idea about possibly getting involved with AngelFood Ministries to bring low cost food to the Helena area for needy families. You can find out more about AngelFood Ministries by visiting http://www.angelfoodministries.com

We discussed an idea for a community free firewood outreach that we'd most likely begin this spring. Still many details to work out but the basics are a local contractor is thinning beetle-kill trees in the general Helena area and is enthusiastic to have a group such as ours help remove the felled trees from the private properties. I contacted the US Forest Service rep assigned to the MT Governor's office with a few questions about handling beetle-kill trees and his response is below.

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From:
Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 2:53 PM
To: Noble, John
Subject: RE: Questions about handling beetle kill wood


I’m glad you’re thinking about this. Trees that are obviously dead and have no needles pose no problem—the beetles have hatched and flown on to attack green living trees. However, trees that still have needles but appear dead, especially if the needles are just yellow rather than red, probably do have larvae that will hatch in May or June and if brought into town, could attack pine trees here. The safe thing if at all possible is to cut the trees that have obviously been dead for more than a year. They make better firewood too. Hope that helps. Jerry.




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From: Noble, John
Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 11:35 AM
To:
Subject: Questions about handling beetle kill wood


Jerry, Our church Outdoorsmen group is looking into doing a firewood outreach for local Helena families. We've contacted a local contractor who is conducting beetle kill removal on private property in the surrounding area. The contractor is enthusiastic to have our group assist in removing the felled trees from the sites. I have some questions and/or concerns about this however.


Can beetle kill trees be safely brought into town and split for firewood? Are there any concerns we should have about transporting beetles and/or their larvae from the cut site to a storage/distribution site here in Helena?


Our goal is to provide free firewood to needy families in the Helena are but we want to make sure we do it in a responsible manner.


Thanks,

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Upcoming Outdoorsmen Events


Saturday 2/7/2009 - Outdoorsmen Family Ski Day at Great Divide
Great Divide opens for skiing at 9:00 AM. Keith and a couple of others are planning on meeting at Great Divide at 8:00 AM sharp. A few other Outdoorsmen will be on site by 8:30 AM to help direct people as they arrive and help distribute lift tickets and get people their rental equipment. Look for signs that read HSBC Outdoorsmen attached to Glenn's big white pickem-up-truck.

For the record, Keith reports we had at least 38 paid attendees as of last night. Great job Keith and everyone else involved.



Next Outdoorsmen Bible Study's
Sunday 2/8/2009 - Starbucks on Prospect, 5:30 PM - 7:00 PM
We didn't get all the way finished with Luke 17:20-37 so we will finish that up and possibly get started on Luke 18:1-8. Please come prepared to get started no later than 5:40 PM.

Tuesday 2/17/2009 - 7:00 PM at Smith's Place in East Helena




John Noble outdoorsmen@hannaford.org
HSBC Outdoorsmen